大绕绕 发表于 2010-1-6 00:52:14

丝绒咖啡MM找什么样的老公

我家有个丝绒咖啡的MM原来是想买回来跟我家标灰儿子配的,可惜我那不争气的儿子只喜欢它原配的老婆标灰MM。结果无奈给我家新女儿再找个老公吧。但是我对丝绒咖啡也不太懂,请教各位了丝绒咖啡最好配什么颜色的龙猫比较好。我着只丝绒咖啡是在朋友手上买的还没给钱呢。我想问一下现在市场上一般价格多少?好给我朋友钱。

大绕绕 发表于 2010-1-7 01:31:07

各位高手给执个招啊

草莓哓蛋糕 发表于 2010-1-7 02:49:19

偶不清楚,等下面的人来回答~~~

choco 发表于 2010-1-7 04:51:10

那要看你那朋友熟不熟...還要看寶寶的顏色...有的像米色的...只有足線...很淺色的絲咖...價錢都不一樣...
一般市場是3000-4000差不多...朋友的話..就真的不好說了...

绕绕 发表于 2010-1-7 13:16:29

丝绒咖啡有色谱吗?丝绒咖跟标灰配会变色,我想知道丝绒咖跟什么颜色配最好?DC有建意吗?

tracybush 发表于 2010-1-7 21:08:51

丝绒基因似乎纯和体会在受精卵时死掉,所以不配丝绒的黑或咖吧,我感觉是如此,不过也不大确定

淑女子 发表于 2010-1-8 00:02:09

聽賣貓貓的店員說,白貓貓跟白貓貓配會因為基因重疊,會死胎。其他彩貓之間好像沒問題吧?

绕绕 发表于 2010-1-8 19:37:26

继续等等专家支招

prince 发表于 2010-1-8 23:23:06

参考:http://www.chinchillaplanet.com/chinchilla-genetics-definitions/
要繁殖彩猫,最重要是基因要优良,避免死胎,遺傳病等.有些基因在homozygous狀态时是致命的,就是兩个相同的基因同時出現.如:人类的地中海貧血.
文中提到LETHAL FACTOR - This term refers to the inability of certain genes to exist in the homozygous state. The two lethal genes for color involved in chinchillas are White and Velvet (also referred to as TOV - "Touch of Velvet" - or Black, not to be confused with Violet or Ebony). If a homozygous allele of White + White or Velvet + Velvet results from a breeding, the embryo will never develop but be reabsorbed by the mother. It has been said that this may result in a blocked uterine horn (chinchillas have two horns to their uterus that branch out from the cervix).( 我沒有學过猫猫遺傳學,不能準確翻譯这段文字.)

猫猫的顏色可以参考:http://www.chinchillaplanet.com/chinchilla-colors/
这个是你的猫猫嗎?
Brown Velvet
These chinchillas are also called tov homo beige and tov hetero beige. They are distinguished by brown fur that fades to beige on the sides and to white for the belly area.

这裡有相片,你看看那个是那个.http://www.chinchillaparkplace.ca/colourchart.php

當你了解上面的資料後,可以试一下下面这个遊戲.(因為很難知道猫猫的正確基因,所以只能参考)
http://www.silverfallchinchilla. ... rossCalculator.aspx

期待你的计算結果:)

好像是: Velvet絲絨
            Ebony 黑色
            Beige 大家好像叫牠米色(?),相片中说这是light champagne color.这个基因好像跟你的猫猫有关.
            Sire父
            Dam母

[ 本帖最后由 prince 于 2010-1-8 23:31 编辑 ]

大绕绕 发表于 2010-1-10 15:05:01

回复 9# prince 的帖子

我家的猫猫是丝绒黑和米色生的。爸爸是米色妈妈是丝绒黑。
刚生下来的时候我们都以为是米色的小家伙全身米色的就是头很黑。但是很奇怪的是身体的毛色呈两色的内部全是白色,只有到毛的末梢才有一点点米色。可是我养着养着完全颜色就变了一点米色的样子都看不见了。头上的黑点开始越来越大很快便部了整个头和脊背。现在小家伙的身上以近看不到一点点米色完全是白色和咖啡色。并且在两个前足手背面有咖啡色的足线。
现在的样子就跟这个图上的猫猫一样。

prince 发表于 2010-1-10 23:38:49

这裡照片更多,看得会清楚一点,基因組合也寫得比較清楚.
http://www.chinchillas.com/resource/photos.htm

如果你弄清楚猫猫的顏色後,下面是Color Mutation Percentage Charts,可以粗略估計下一代的顏色.
http://www.chinchillas.com/resource/color-mutation-charts.htm
爸爸是米色妈妈是丝绒黑,下一代是:
1) Beige (heterozygous) to Black Velvet
    25% Standard
    25% Beige
    25% Black Velvet
    25% TOV Beige
2) Beige (homozygous) to Black Velvet
   50% TOV Beige
   50% Heterozygous Beige
3) 如果用Chin-Cross Caculator(这个詳細一點)就计出下面的組合.
   http://www.silverfallchinchilla. ... rossCalculator.aspx(计算結果未能显示出來,所以我把結果貼在下面)
   因為你上面選的照片(可能照片拍得不清楚,或許弄錯了)是TOV Sapphire ,所以我在父母的基因中加了Sapphire,從而得出这个結果.(我只是猜猜看)
   
Chinchilla Breeding ResultsSire:http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?100110
Pink White Sapphire (Hetero Beige)
Dam:http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?131100
Dark TOV Ebony White Sapphire
Kits:http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?131210
Lethal Homo White
25.00%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?121100
Medium Ebony White Sapphire
9.38%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?111100
Light TOV Ebony White Sapphire
4.69%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?110100
Light Ebony White Sapphire
4.69%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?110110
Light Tan White Sapphire (Hetero Beige)
4.69%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?121110
Medium TOV Tan White Sapphire (Hetero Beige)
4.69%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?120110
Medium Tan White Sapphire (Homo Beige)
4.69%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?111110
Light TOV Tan White Sapphire (Hetero Beige)
4.69%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?111010
Light TOV Tan Sapphire (Hetero Beige)
2.34%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?121010
Medium TOV Tan Sapphire (Hetero Beige)
2.34%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?120010
Medium Tan Sapphire (Hetero Beige)
2.34%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?110010
Light Tan Sapphire (Hetero Beige)
2.34%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?120000
Medium Ebony Sapphire
2.34%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?111000
Light TOV Ebony Sapphire
2.34%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?121000
Medium TOV Ebony Sapphire
2.34%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?110000
Light Ebony Sapphire
2.34%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?101110
TOV Pink White Sapphire (Hetero Beige)
1.56%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?100110
Pink White Sapphire (Hetero Beige)
1.56%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?130110
Dark Tan White Sapphire (Hetero Beige)
1.56%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?130100
Dark Ebony White Sapphire
1.56%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?131100
Dark TOV Ebony White Sapphire
1.56%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?100100
White Sapphire
1.56%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?101100
TOV White Sapphire
1.56%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?131110
Dark TOV Tan White Sapphire (Hetero Beige)
1.56%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?100000
Sapphire
0.78%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?130000
Dark Ebony Sapphire
0.78%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?130010
Dark Tan Sapphire (Hetero Beige)
0.78%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?131000
Dark TOV Ebony Sapphire
0.78%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?100010
Beige Sapphire (Hetero)
0.78%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?101000
TOV Sapphire
0.78%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?131010
Dark TOV Tan Sapphire (Hetero Beige)
0.78%http://www.silverfallchinchilla.com/genetics/GenotypeImage.aspx?101010
TOV Beige Sapphire (Hetero Beige)
0.78%


下面是对lethal factor 的补充说明.
http://www.chinchillas.com/resource/color-mutation-hybrids.htm
The Wilson White and Black Velvet gene carry a genetic "lethal factor," thus there is no known Homozygous White or Homozygous Black Velvet. Breeding two whites together will result in 25% fewer offspring littered, and breeding a Black Velvet or any TOV color to any other Black Velvet or TOV color will also result in 25 percent fewer offspring littered.

[ 本帖最后由 prince 于 2010-1-10 23:59 编辑 ]

绕绕 发表于 2010-1-11 00:45:04

爸爸是米色妈妈是丝绒黑,下一代是:
1)米色(杂合子),以黑色天鹅绒
    25%标准
    25%米色
    25%黑天鹅绒
    25%姆托夫米色
2)米色(纯),以黑色天鹅绒
   50%姆托夫米色
   50%的杂米色

绕绕 发表于 2010-1-11 01:00:52

谢谢prince,我大致了解这个颜色的问题咯,我跟我老公商量看看,本来打算把她跟标灰配的,不知道是不是不合适
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